The reason we Mets fans are angry about this collapse is because of the time wasted being invested in this team. At the beginning of the year Cohen complained about the attendance at Citi field last year. Mets faithful rewarded him with a packed house early in this cold months and through the summer and this is what they have given us. No names starting games and a bullpen that will find ways to lose when a starting pitcher finally has a good start. There has been no fight in this team all season with the 0-fer comebacks after the 6th inning. We should all feel betrayed even if this team somehow makes the playoffs it will still feel hollow. Speaking delusionally now should they somehow get in and win the WS. It’s not going to ring as a championship earned. It’ll be the luckiest team ever to win it all.
The Reds and Giants (who still have several games against the Dodgers, who apparently aren't that bad) keep leaving the Mets a chance. The Mets have sucked for months. And they STILL (except for a few hours) have a playoff spot. It's almost cruel.
People were mad that Mendoza took out Sproat. His reasoning sounds valid. Are we going to hurt the development of this guy to try to get a third wild card? And the game would have been won if Diaz had gotten four outs. The team finds a way to lose.
I suppose they will bring back Senga and send back Tong?
The argument by the manager was that Sproat's velocity had significantly dropped & that is why he took a guy starting his second game in the majors out of the game.
Taylor is hurt, so if you DFA two CFs, it's a bit thin. Acuna at CF? Basically, relying on two guys out of position for a key position. Acuna played there in two games in the majors for three innings. Maybe something to try in Spring Training.
Alonso had a good year, at least until recently, but I'm wary of a long, expensive contract. It will be the emotional thing to do.
A winning team scores in the 8th and 9th innings. In 2024, we would assume they had a good chance to make up that blown lead in the 8th.
Ok, what is your opinion if the hurt Alverez should be playing instead of the elite Torrens. As Alverez has cost the Mets on offense and defense since his return.
I also wished Torrens caught Tong on Friday night
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On Taylor, o thought he was just on the 10 day DL and would be back soon.
On Mullins DFA, I have been calling for that dince 8/1. As how do you bring in s 235 hitter for the last 4 years, who worse than Taylor in every category.
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On Acuna, the guy is great on IF defense. And i ffigure if the Mets can just put McNeil on CF, with no experience snd lesser speed than Acuna has
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I am still mad mets didn't send I MAURICIO to AAA on 8/1 or the date he got chaoned to the bench.
For ACUNA. Which cost 2 games that i remember acuna speed on the bases could have made s difference
Horrible clueless GM
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Also ehy wasn't Peterson sent to AAA. With his 7.000 +ERA in his last 8 starts.
Torrens hasn't played that well of late, so I don't know what you gain there. They want offense. Don't think playing A. hurts you overall.
Senga was struggling overall coming back. Peterson began to struggle. Of the two, figure Senga benefits more from being sent down.
A podcast noted Mauricio hasn't added much. I'm inclined to agree. Acuna seems to have more potential to add that "X' factor and is good on defense -- though I don't want to start experimenting with new positions in September.
It’s the hitting, not the pitching, that’s killing this team. Sure, Rogers and Díaz weren’t sharp yesterday—but that only left a one-run deficit. The real problem is the bats. Alonso, McNeil, Lindor, and Marte have all gone ice cold, and Nimmo has never been a reliable clutch hitter.
Even when Tong coughed up six runs, the Mets could only scratch across three in response. This lineup has completely lost the ability to tack on runs, and until that changes, no amount of pitching adjustments will save them.
They only thing to blame Cohen for is not telling Stearns to dump Mendoza. Hiring a coach from the Aaron Boone staff is like asking the Cleveland Browns for advice on how to throw a Super Bowl parade. Mendoza still had not figured out when to use Diaz (never mid-inning). And someone needs to put a foot up Diaz ass and teach him that he needs to hold runners on. (Didnt hurt yesterday, but). This team plays stupid baseball, and that is on the manager and coaches.
Bruce demonstrated to Carlos how to manage and win a close game. The home half of the 7th and 8th innings are seminars on how a professional team is not supposed to execute. What a disaster, wasting a terrific outing by a young pitcher. I don't subscribe to not putting him out in the 7th with the theories that a young pitcher needs to leave a game in a successful situation. The other theory is you wasted a gutty performance and let him watch the team blow it up. Though they are lousy and awful, I'm still rooting for them to pick it up and get in.
In fairness to Rogers, he made Josh Smith look silly prior to the catcher’s interference call, and would probably had a clean inning without that. Coughing up the lead is on Diaz, who has been excellent all year. Also, Tong needs to get more movement on his fastball, which looks extremely straight to me.
The reason we Mets fans are angry about this collapse is because of the time wasted being invested in this team. At the beginning of the year Cohen complained about the attendance at Citi field last year. Mets faithful rewarded him with a packed house early in this cold months and through the summer and this is what they have given us. No names starting games and a bullpen that will find ways to lose when a starting pitcher finally has a good start. There has been no fight in this team all season with the 0-fer comebacks after the 6th inning. We should all feel betrayed even if this team somehow makes the playoffs it will still feel hollow. Speaking delusionally now should they somehow get in and win the WS. It’s not going to ring as a championship earned. It’ll be the luckiest team ever to win it all.
Why is everything good the Mets do luck and everything bad just who they are. Can’t it be somewhere in the middle?
The Reds and Giants (who still have several games against the Dodgers, who apparently aren't that bad) keep leaving the Mets a chance. The Mets have sucked for months. And they STILL (except for a few hours) have a playoff spot. It's almost cruel.
People were mad that Mendoza took out Sproat. His reasoning sounds valid. Are we going to hurt the development of this guy to try to get a third wild card? And the game would have been won if Diaz had gotten four outs. The team finds a way to lose.
I suppose they will bring back Senga and send back Tong?
The Mets have been an awful baseball team for 3 months.
Since June 13:
White Sox 34-46
Mets 31-49
Nationals 31-50
Rockies 28-53
I love the Mets, but even I stopped watching them. There's always next year!
As the great philosopher Charlie Brown said: "Sigh".
“Well, apparently rock bottom has a basement” - Someone
"When we hit the lowest point, we are open to the greatest change."
- Aang, The Legend of Korra (he wrote for the Daily News, I think)
Some questions
Why was Sproat pulled after 6 SHUTOUT INNINGS snd only 70 pitches. He could have went 8 throwing 100 pitches.
For the 2nd day in s row, Alverez shows he shouldn't be the Starting Catcher.
As combining Offense and Defense, the elite Torrens is far and away better than Alverez everyday of the week
On Alonso, do you want him to sign Long Term for Crazy Money. Especially as he only does like 2 of 10 good things Soto does
Could Vientos replace Alonso at 1B
But on Alonso, another chance for him to make s difference in the 7 8 9 inning if a game
But Alonso as the game winning run in the 9th. Doesn't homer but Strikes out. Which left the game up to Vientos who also struck out
An ice cold Matre should be benched
Baty should play everyday
Taylor and McNeil AND ACUNA should play everyday in CF
DFA MULLINS
DFA SITI
FIRE METS GM OVER THE HORRIBLE 7/31 TRADES
FIRED MANAGER FOR EVERYTHING HE DOES GROM THE LINEUP TO GAME MOVES TO HIS PATHETIC POST GAME PRESS CONFERENCES
PROBABLY MISSED SOME BUT THAT IS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD
The argument by the manager was that Sproat's velocity had significantly dropped & that is why he took a guy starting his second game in the majors out of the game.
Taylor is hurt, so if you DFA two CFs, it's a bit thin. Acuna at CF? Basically, relying on two guys out of position for a key position. Acuna played there in two games in the majors for three innings. Maybe something to try in Spring Training.
Alonso had a good year, at least until recently, but I'm wary of a long, expensive contract. It will be the emotional thing to do.
A winning team scores in the 8th and 9th innings. In 2024, we would assume they had a good chance to make up that blown lead in the 8th.
Ok, what is your opinion if the hurt Alverez should be playing instead of the elite Torrens. As Alverez has cost the Mets on offense and defense since his return.
I also wished Torrens caught Tong on Friday night
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On Taylor, o thought he was just on the 10 day DL and would be back soon.
On Mullins DFA, I have been calling for that dince 8/1. As how do you bring in s 235 hitter for the last 4 years, who worse than Taylor in every category.
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On Acuna, the guy is great on IF defense. And i ffigure if the Mets can just put McNeil on CF, with no experience snd lesser speed than Acuna has
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I am still mad mets didn't send I MAURICIO to AAA on 8/1 or the date he got chaoned to the bench.
For ACUNA. Which cost 2 games that i remember acuna speed on the bases could have made s difference
Horrible clueless GM
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Also ehy wasn't Peterson sent to AAA. With his 7.000 +ERA in his last 8 starts.
INSTEAD OF SENGA
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Baty should bat higher than Vientos
Could write more but that's enough for now
Torrens hasn't played that well of late, so I don't know what you gain there. They want offense. Don't think playing A. hurts you overall.
Senga was struggling overall coming back. Peterson began to struggle. Of the two, figure Senga benefits more from being sent down.
A podcast noted Mauricio hasn't added much. I'm inclined to agree. Acuna seems to have more potential to add that "X' factor and is good on defense -- though I don't want to start experimenting with new positions in September.
On acuna, i am FINE with Acuna only staying on infield.
Where he is great at 2nd Base
And can play SS AND 3B. Which no one else can do.
On the outfield, just an idea as the 6th outfielder
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On ALVEREZ
AAA REHAB
3-20
7Ks
1 Homer
2 Singles
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On mets i been watching as i like Torrens but don't think Alverez hitting with a brace is smart or productive
SO I AM NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW HOW BSD ALVEREZ HAS BEEN
9 Games
160 Batting Average
25 At Bats
4 HITS
1 RUN SCORED
1 RBI
1 HOMER
1 DOUBLE
1 WALK
8 TOTAL BASES IN 9 GAMES
10 STRIKEOUTS
END LAST POST AS NOW GOONG TO CONCENTRATE ON METS JETS GIANTS
4 Hits
1 Run Scored
1 R I
26 At Bats
It’s the hitting, not the pitching, that’s killing this team. Sure, Rogers and Díaz weren’t sharp yesterday—but that only left a one-run deficit. The real problem is the bats. Alonso, McNeil, Lindor, and Marte have all gone ice cold, and Nimmo has never been a reliable clutch hitter.
Even when Tong coughed up six runs, the Mets could only scratch across three in response. This lineup has completely lost the ability to tack on runs, and until that changes, no amount of pitching adjustments will save them.
They only thing to blame Cohen for is not telling Stearns to dump Mendoza. Hiring a coach from the Aaron Boone staff is like asking the Cleveland Browns for advice on how to throw a Super Bowl parade. Mendoza still had not figured out when to use Diaz (never mid-inning). And someone needs to put a foot up Diaz ass and teach him that he needs to hold runners on. (Didnt hurt yesterday, but). This team plays stupid baseball, and that is on the manager and coaches.
Bruce demonstrated to Carlos how to manage and win a close game. The home half of the 7th and 8th innings are seminars on how a professional team is not supposed to execute. What a disaster, wasting a terrific outing by a young pitcher. I don't subscribe to not putting him out in the 7th with the theories that a young pitcher needs to leave a game in a successful situation. The other theory is you wasted a gutty performance and let him watch the team blow it up. Though they are lousy and awful, I'm still rooting for them to pick it up and get in.
In fairness to Rogers, he made Josh Smith look silly prior to the catcher’s interference call, and would probably had a clean inning without that. Coughing up the lead is on Diaz, who has been excellent all year. Also, Tong needs to get more movement on his fastball, which looks extremely straight to me.
Rogers is going to have some men on base & it's unfair to give him extra outs.
The team had two runs on 11 hits. That's not good. That loss is on the batters and Diaz.
The loss is on the lack of a competent setup man. They have used Diaz as the setup and the closer several times recently. That's a no-go