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Joel's avatar

Some people look at the excellent performances of McLean and Tong and think it means they should've been called up earlier. It's just as likely their excellent performance shows they were brought up at the right time. Turning the page, the Mets offensive resurgence doesn't mean the hitting coaches transformed from incompetents to geniuses and the poor pitching doesn't mean Hefner metamorphosed from the guru he was in April to an imcompetent.

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harvey's avatar

WhileI "Is Kodai Senga reaching the end of the line?" seems like an overreaction, it's a legit question. He may need a mental break

I was looking for Alcantara with his inflated ERA at the deadline, but don't even know if they made a run at him

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Kevin J. Rogers's avatar

Alcantara was the guy I wanted, too. I was pretty sure it would have cost us Sproat (McLean and Tong were untouchables, and I think Jack Wenninger is on that list as well) with maybe a couple middling position prospects thrown in. I would have made that deal.

But I don't know if it ever got to the point of serious talks. If I'm in Miami, I'm asking for two pitchers, and I doubt Stearns would have even pursued it under those terms.

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Rich MacLeod's avatar

Supposedly the ask was two Top 5 prospects plus major league talent. For the Mets that would've meant two of Tong, McLean, Sproat, Williams and Benge. PLUS more.

I can see why they didn't do it.

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Turfseer's avatar

Yeah, Senga was bad yesterday, but if the bats had woken up they still could’ve had a shot. The bigger issue is how wildly inconsistent the lineup has been. Alonso goes on these brutal streaks where he’s 1-for-15 (as well as having the highest double play rate in the National League).. Nimmo? On a good day, you’re hoping for one hit in four at-bats, like yesterday. Marte’s the same story—hot for a couple days, then flat. Lindor’s been better overall, but don’t forget that two-month slump. McNeil is streaky too.

Baty and Vientos have the power, but they’re just as inconsistent. Taylor has finally shown some life. Mauricio and Mullens? More like minor league filler. Torrens is a .210 hitter, Senger is below .200, and Alvarez—who knows how long he lasts with all those broken fingers.

The truth is, only Soto can be counted on to consistently get on base. Everyone else is a coin flip.

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Kevin J. Rogers's avatar

This was the problem I had with building a six-man around Kodai. When he's on, he's as good as anyone, but he's fragile. It doesn't take much to throw him off. And once he's off by even a little, he's non-competitive.

That's not the guy you want at the top of your rotation. And that's the Kodai Conundrum: front of the rotation stuff, back of the rotation durability, both physical and mental.

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Joel's avatar

I'm curious what the "...and mental" is all about. A poster on this site a few weeks ago called him a "head case". What's the derivation of this?

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Peter Mat's avatar

The rotation that worked well into June, has fallen off the face of the earth. Hopefully a respite can bring them back.

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Steve's avatar

I’ve seen enough of Senga. I hope they call up Sproat. Right now the 2 guys we just called up are our 2 best pitchers. Why not add a 3rd?

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George Armonaitis Jr.'s avatar

Where the often exhaulted Mets pitching coaches while all their starters are spiralling down. Hefners' pitching lab is great for developing guys, but he has not done a thing to help the rest of these guys in the majors this year. Canning got off to a great start, was starting to struggle before he got hurt (remember him?) Seems like everyone has run out gas early. Peterson is the exception, as Saturday a lot of those hits where just little doinks.

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James Schwartz's avatar

This weekend is why I broke up with this team and any reconciliation this year seems very unlikely. I’m thrilled for the kids on this team and the future sure looks bright but until this rotation gets the other 3/5 or 4/6( yes I’m alware it’s 2/3) right we can expect the good and ugly the rest of the way until the inevitable early exit from the playoffs

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