I don’t recall anyone stating that 2023 was a down year for Alonso. He was 3rd in HRs and 2nd in RBIs. Without question, 2024 was a down year and his numbers were down across the board. I want to see Alonso at Citi in 2025 - I just don’t want the Mets to cave into Boras. He’s bad for the sport and the more wins and power he amasses, the worse it gets. It’s a shame that Alonso is caught up in this, but he’s the one who hired him and this current stand-off was predictable from that day forward. I hope for Pete’s sake (pun intended) that he does not turn into this year’s version of Stephen Drew, Kendrys Morales, or Jordan Montgomery. Drew and Morales were never the same after the Boras directed holdouts and we’ll see in Montgomery can recover. I hope Pete does not become Boras’s latest casualty.
If the rumors are true that Boras turned down 3 years at $30M/year with opt-outs, then Pete’s unfortunately heading down that path. For perspective, $30M is more than Bryce Harper or Freddy Freeman earn. Pete turned down a 10% premium over those far superior players.
Everyone keeps saying “Sign Pete”. You all got it wrong. You should be saying ,”Pete sign!” He turned down 2 offers. Not Cohen’s fault he got himself an agent that doesn’t care who Pete plays for. And I guess Pete doesn’t either.
I just think the focus on Alonso,in general, needs to end. If he wanted to be a Met, he would have signed one of the offers. He's moved on, so should we. JMO
Another thing about Pete: he looked like his old self in the last two playoff rounds against Philadelphia and the Dodgers. Much more comfortable, much more locked in. That tells me he was indeed pressing all season, especially in RISP situations.
Does that mean he's guaranteed to be back to a 50 HR beast if he gets the long-term security he's looking for? No. But if my feet are under the David Stearns's desk, I'm certainly looking at those last 10 games and scratching my chin and thinking, "Hmmm ... "
The problem is Boras would wait till April to sign a deal and we CANNOT wait for him. Pete needs to decide if he wants to come back and if not the Mets need to move on and sign another hitter and someone who can play first or third.
I still think the more this drags, the more likely it is that he stays but if he doesn't there are enough decent teams for him to go to that I don't think he would go to the Angels.
He will get a paycheck elsewhere. He enjoys winning and baseball enough not to be in it only for the money & sign in the cesspool that is the Angels.
BTW, I think the Mets should try to keep Stanek. Last I checked, he still is available.
Pete is a Met and it's hard to envision him anywhere else. Yes, I had my frustrations with him during the regular season in clutch situations, as I think we all did. But I do believe there was some pressing going on with his free agency in mind. We saw what he is capable of in the postseason. And having Soto in the lineup will also work wonders for him.
I get both sides, from the team being hesitant to giving a player with flaws a long-term deal, to Pete betting on himself and thinking he is worth more than he is being offered. It looks like the only way this gets done is for Pete to accept a shorter term deal, or one with opt outs. I don't see anyone giving him beyond 5 years, and even that may be unlikely so hopefully he is willing to compromise. This dragging on into the spring will benefit no one.
I have mixed feelings about Pete at this point, I tend to look at his down year as his struggling under the pressure to produce. It was at it's worse all season with 2 strikes. He was so vulnerable to the low outside breaking pitch.
I'd like to think hr'd do better once he's signed but I have concerns about the consequences if he is unhappy with what he signed for.
The question about how he's going about his contract negotiations comes down to the fact that he hired an agent to represent him and get the best contract possible. It says something about Pete's approach that he choose Boros who is the best at negotiating top dollar for his clients, but also has a significant history of misjudging the market.
There have been a few situations where the player fired the agent and hired a new agent with more openness to negotiate
I don't hold it against Pete to try to get the best contract he can. It is business and this is his chance. I also think he can read the tea leaves on his own and decide what he thinks is best for myself..
I want Pete back at a contract that makes sense for both sides. Maybe it’s a 4 year deal with vesting options for a 5th year? I think $22m aav is fair but it’s not my money 😀
I don’t recall anyone stating that 2023 was a down year for Alonso. He was 3rd in HRs and 2nd in RBIs. Without question, 2024 was a down year and his numbers were down across the board. I want to see Alonso at Citi in 2025 - I just don’t want the Mets to cave into Boras. He’s bad for the sport and the more wins and power he amasses, the worse it gets. It’s a shame that Alonso is caught up in this, but he’s the one who hired him and this current stand-off was predictable from that day forward. I hope for Pete’s sake (pun intended) that he does not turn into this year’s version of Stephen Drew, Kendrys Morales, or Jordan Montgomery. Drew and Morales were never the same after the Boras directed holdouts and we’ll see in Montgomery can recover. I hope Pete does not become Boras’s latest casualty.
If the rumors are true that Boras turned down 3 years at $30M/year with opt-outs, then Pete’s unfortunately heading down that path. For perspective, $30M is more than Bryce Harper or Freddy Freeman earn. Pete turned down a 10% premium over those far superior players.
Everyone keeps saying “Sign Pete”. You all got it wrong. You should be saying ,”Pete sign!” He turned down 2 offers. Not Cohen’s fault he got himself an agent that doesn’t care who Pete plays for. And I guess Pete doesn’t either.
The longer this saga drags out, the more bad feelings will develop.
We have to wonder if this has become an interest problem, and not in the financial sense. Does Pete want to be a Met, or do the Mets want Pete?
As mentioned already, Boras is the fly on the ointment and his representation of Pete is not doing anyone any favors - including most notably, Pete.
I just think the focus on Alonso,in general, needs to end. If he wanted to be a Met, he would have signed one of the offers. He's moved on, so should we. JMO
Another thing about Pete: he looked like his old self in the last two playoff rounds against Philadelphia and the Dodgers. Much more comfortable, much more locked in. That tells me he was indeed pressing all season, especially in RISP situations.
Does that mean he's guaranteed to be back to a 50 HR beast if he gets the long-term security he's looking for? No. But if my feet are under the David Stearns's desk, I'm certainly looking at those last 10 games and scratching my chin and thinking, "Hmmm ... "
The problem is Boras would wait till April to sign a deal and we CANNOT wait for him. Pete needs to decide if he wants to come back and if not the Mets need to move on and sign another hitter and someone who can play first or third.
I still think the more this drags, the more likely it is that he stays but if he doesn't there are enough decent teams for him to go to that I don't think he would go to the Angels.
He will get a paycheck elsewhere. He enjoys winning and baseball enough not to be in it only for the money & sign in the cesspool that is the Angels.
BTW, I think the Mets should try to keep Stanek. Last I checked, he still is available.
He was great in his roll with us last year!
Excellent points regarding Alonso. He is a Met at heart and it would break ours to see him leave.
Bring back Big Meat Pete
Pete is a Met and it's hard to envision him anywhere else. Yes, I had my frustrations with him during the regular season in clutch situations, as I think we all did. But I do believe there was some pressing going on with his free agency in mind. We saw what he is capable of in the postseason. And having Soto in the lineup will also work wonders for him.
I get both sides, from the team being hesitant to giving a player with flaws a long-term deal, to Pete betting on himself and thinking he is worth more than he is being offered. It looks like the only way this gets done is for Pete to accept a shorter term deal, or one with opt outs. I don't see anyone giving him beyond 5 years, and even that may be unlikely so hopefully he is willing to compromise. This dragging on into the spring will benefit no one.
I have mixed feelings about Pete at this point, I tend to look at his down year as his struggling under the pressure to produce. It was at it's worse all season with 2 strikes. He was so vulnerable to the low outside breaking pitch.
I'd like to think hr'd do better once he's signed but I have concerns about the consequences if he is unhappy with what he signed for.
The question about how he's going about his contract negotiations comes down to the fact that he hired an agent to represent him and get the best contract possible. It says something about Pete's approach that he choose Boros who is the best at negotiating top dollar for his clients, but also has a significant history of misjudging the market.
There have been a few situations where the player fired the agent and hired a new agent with more openness to negotiate
I don't hold it against Pete to try to get the best contract he can. It is business and this is his chance. I also think he can read the tea leaves on his own and decide what he thinks is best for myself..
I want Pete back at a contract that makes sense for both sides. Maybe it’s a 4 year deal with vesting options for a 5th year? I think $22m aav is fair but it’s not my money 😀
Agreed. Bring Pete Back