The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results. The Mets are not and were not a championship team. They needed to blow things up in order to get there. I’d rather them trade redundant pieces than to keep trotting out the same players and hoping for different results.
I'll put it more simply. Trading players who are going to be FA is quite fine. Trading off good relievers (Weaver and Brazoban, 86 appearances between them) who are under control next year means that you're giving up on next season, with Soto and Lindor (we hope) in their primes. The pitching situation next year may be very ugly. Thin FA market.
No, it means they really targeted specific players they wanted. They view their future - which might not be 2027 specific - as they will use their developed minor league talent and will use the excesses to trade to fill gaps. You have to sacrifice sometimes.
The goal never was to compete in 2026. There is a base of talent on the team - but they will be more competitive in 27 and 28
I took my daughter to the game on Sunday and came away with the following impressions. Citifield is awesome as sports venue, great sightlines, good food (crazy prices), everything was positive. The fans were great, very into the game, which can be challenging but very positive. The one thing that was missing was a lack of energy by the players, for guys getting paid a lot of money that was disappointing, not the young guys and hopefully this losing doesn't rub off on them. Cohen should have a meeting like he would do if his finance people were not performing up to standard and let the players know that the fans continue to pay for tickets and he continues to pay the players so start busting your asses.
The trade deadline, minus a fourth outfielder, left the lineup and defense (except to the degree pitchers are included) the same as before.
That's depressing, but also suggests the limited nature of the trades. What, bottom line, will the team miss? A few pitchers. And the pitchers are basically the one thing Boy Genius did right.
I won't say it will be simple to replace them. Still, they should be able to find a middle-of-the-rotation starter. They have various possible options for a fifth starter. Or they can pick one up.
That leaves the bullpen. They have various minor leaguers to trade for one or two good arms.
The problem remains the lineup. Some of which (we might toss in Senga here) are so bad or useless overall that DFA-ing one or more of them shouldn't be out of the question.
Watching some of these people, including Robert Jr., on the field in August and September will personally annoy me.
Absent from this pretty good but very optimistic article is the gorilla in the room: it's a rebuild. Say goodbye to contending in '27. Another year of Soto and Lindor(?) in their primes going to waste. Who's going to pitch for this team next year? McLean, Scott for 5 innings, and prayers? The strongest part of the team, the bullpen, has been ripped up. We've been surpassed by the Nats and Marlins and White Sox. If you want to conjure up a rosy future, "all power to you" as the old folks used to say.
Not having a contending roster for 2027 may be an indication of no baseball in 2027. Makes me wonder if Sterns knows something we don't about the CBA negotiations. Just a thought.
Well, I don't profess any special knowledge. But I tend to agree with the people who think that the owners, when faced with the huge loss of income from a canceled season, will cave and that their current stance is bluster.
Where are the Mets? That they sold off at the deadline to the Pirates and the White Sox should tell you everything you need to know.
The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results. The Mets are not and were not a championship team. They needed to blow things up in order to get there. I’d rather them trade redundant pieces than to keep trotting out the same players and hoping for different results.
Interested to see how this plays out
Redundant? In what way was Weaver redundant?
So the Mets trade 7 players and you are basing your argument on just one player, and not the 86% of the others
I'll put it more simply. Trading players who are going to be FA is quite fine. Trading off good relievers (Weaver and Brazoban, 86 appearances between them) who are under control next year means that you're giving up on next season, with Soto and Lindor (we hope) in their primes. The pitching situation next year may be very ugly. Thin FA market.
No, it means they really targeted specific players they wanted. They view their future - which might not be 2027 specific - as they will use their developed minor league talent and will use the excesses to trade to fill gaps. You have to sacrifice sometimes.
The goal never was to compete in 2026. There is a base of talent on the team - but they will be more competitive in 27 and 28
The White Sox lead the Central.
I took my daughter to the game on Sunday and came away with the following impressions. Citifield is awesome as sports venue, great sightlines, good food (crazy prices), everything was positive. The fans were great, very into the game, which can be challenging but very positive. The one thing that was missing was a lack of energy by the players, for guys getting paid a lot of money that was disappointing, not the young guys and hopefully this losing doesn't rub off on them. Cohen should have a meeting like he would do if his finance people were not performing up to standard and let the players know that the fans continue to pay for tickets and he continues to pay the players so start busting your asses.
The trade deadline, minus a fourth outfielder, left the lineup and defense (except to the degree pitchers are included) the same as before.
That's depressing, but also suggests the limited nature of the trades. What, bottom line, will the team miss? A few pitchers. And the pitchers are basically the one thing Boy Genius did right.
I won't say it will be simple to replace them. Still, they should be able to find a middle-of-the-rotation starter. They have various possible options for a fifth starter. Or they can pick one up.
That leaves the bullpen. They have various minor leaguers to trade for one or two good arms.
The problem remains the lineup. Some of which (we might toss in Senga here) are so bad or useless overall that DFA-ing one or more of them shouldn't be out of the question.
Watching some of these people, including Robert Jr., on the field in August and September will personally annoy me.
Absent from this pretty good but very optimistic article is the gorilla in the room: it's a rebuild. Say goodbye to contending in '27. Another year of Soto and Lindor(?) in their primes going to waste. Who's going to pitch for this team next year? McLean, Scott for 5 innings, and prayers? The strongest part of the team, the bullpen, has been ripped up. We've been surpassed by the Nats and Marlins and White Sox. If you want to conjure up a rosy future, "all power to you" as the old folks used to say.
Not having a contending roster for 2027 may be an indication of no baseball in 2027. Makes me wonder if Sterns knows something we don't about the CBA negotiations. Just a thought.
Well, I don't profess any special knowledge. But I tend to agree with the people who think that the owners, when faced with the huge loss of income from a canceled season, will cave and that their current stance is bluster.