At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed behind in Port St Lucie for extended Spring Training when the team breaks camp. The good news is, that would solve the question of fitting six starting pitchers into five slots in the rotation, for the time being. The better news is the Mets have rotational depth in Syracuse, with Jonah Tong and Christian Scott waiting in the wings.
If the Mets biggest problem this year is that Manea doesn't contribute, I'll take it. Btw, the Myers acquisition is looking more and more important when you consider that Peralta is asking for 7 years which he shouldn't get.
Manaea is disposable. We saw last year that "you can't have too much pitching."
Still, if you can get anything for him (including with someone else), he's obviously disposable.
He did his job when he first came, was disappointing last season, and if he gives you anything this year, it's gravy. Of course, he might "click in" and be decent or more. These guys are variable.
Sean Manaea needs to go back to the basics. Stop futzing around, look at the tapes of his early part of his career. He should contact John Smoltz, who went from a traditional delivery, then lowered his arm slot, then returned it (the arm slot) back to where it was. This tinkering nonsense it driving everyone crazy.
I did not misunderstand. The only possible misunderstanding was why you commented on my post. I was suggesting that instead of tinkering, just go back to the basics.
You may have misunderstood what I was saying. The claim by Manaea (and the Mets) was that after watching a pitching performance by Sale, he decided to drop his arm slot to maximize his performance. Is the REAL story that Manaea was already hurting with is elbow, made the change, had GREAT success, and got his contract, without anyone making too much noise about it? Of course. It worked.
Smoltz did it for the exact same reasons, got the surgery, became an elite closer, before returning to starting. Logic would dictate that Manaea might be dealing with a similar injury; they're using the loose bodies in the elbow thing as a smokescreen to avoid perhaps a larger Tommy John procedure. Naturally, we'd all say, "well, just get the surgery. The Mets likely recover the money via insurance..." and so on.
There is a thing to consider. Manaea's service time. He's currently sitting at 9.157 years of MLB service time. He's 34 years old. By comparison, Smoltz was 33 when he had his TJS, but he was also in his ELEVENTH season. He had accrued enough service time to receive a pension. Manaea does not, yet. You need 10 full years of service. There's ALSO an imminent labor stoppage coming in 2027. Surgery plus a labor stoppage would seriously jeopardize his ability to receive that pension. You need 10 full years of service to be fully vested.
He's gonna pitch. He'll pitch through the pain. He'll get his service time. He'll do right by himself, and so will the Mets, too. This is how you avoid grievances, service time manipulation, and so on...
I'll also add one final addendum to this. Manaea's likely doing this against the advice of his agent. You all know him well. He's Scott Boras. Again, despite what everyone thinks: the agent works for the player.
How the Mets say they aren’t concerned is bullshit. Mendoza said he is still trying to find the right arm slot which to me reads as he’s trying to find a repeatable way to throw the ball where it doesn’t hurt and maybe then his velocity comes back? Manaea will be left behind before it’s announced he is heard for surgery and out for 3 months at least. He should have cleaned this up in the off season and I hope the Mets can recoup some of his contract because I can’t for the life of me believe they didn’t push for him to clean that elbow up. Robert played his first game. He’s a solid man. Fills out those under shirts like an Adonis. Prediction: if he plays 150 games. 30+HRs.
At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed behind in Port St Lucie for extended Spring Training when the team breaks camp. The good news is, that would solve the question of fitting six starting pitchers into five slots in the rotation, for the time being. The better news is the Mets have rotational depth in Syracuse, with Jonah Tong and Christian Scott waiting in the wings.
If the Mets biggest problem this year is that Manea doesn't contribute, I'll take it. Btw, the Myers acquisition is looking more and more important when you consider that Peralta is asking for 7 years which he shouldn't get.
Manaea is disposable. We saw last year that "you can't have too much pitching."
Still, if you can get anything for him (including with someone else), he's obviously disposable.
He did his job when he first came, was disappointing last season, and if he gives you anything this year, it's gravy. Of course, he might "click in" and be decent or more. These guys are variable.
Sean Manaea needs to go back to the basics. Stop futzing around, look at the tapes of his early part of his career. He should contact John Smoltz, who went from a traditional delivery, then lowered his arm slot, then returned it (the arm slot) back to where it was. This tinkering nonsense it driving everyone crazy.
I did not misunderstand. The only possible misunderstanding was why you commented on my post. I was suggesting that instead of tinkering, just go back to the basics.
Smoltz did it out of necessity for a torn elbow ligament... what does that tell you?
That Smoltz is very smart, understood what he was doing, returned to his normal slot, and went into the HOF.
You may have misunderstood what I was saying. The claim by Manaea (and the Mets) was that after watching a pitching performance by Sale, he decided to drop his arm slot to maximize his performance. Is the REAL story that Manaea was already hurting with is elbow, made the change, had GREAT success, and got his contract, without anyone making too much noise about it? Of course. It worked.
Smoltz did it for the exact same reasons, got the surgery, became an elite closer, before returning to starting. Logic would dictate that Manaea might be dealing with a similar injury; they're using the loose bodies in the elbow thing as a smokescreen to avoid perhaps a larger Tommy John procedure. Naturally, we'd all say, "well, just get the surgery. The Mets likely recover the money via insurance..." and so on.
There is a thing to consider. Manaea's service time. He's currently sitting at 9.157 years of MLB service time. He's 34 years old. By comparison, Smoltz was 33 when he had his TJS, but he was also in his ELEVENTH season. He had accrued enough service time to receive a pension. Manaea does not, yet. You need 10 full years of service. There's ALSO an imminent labor stoppage coming in 2027. Surgery plus a labor stoppage would seriously jeopardize his ability to receive that pension. You need 10 full years of service to be fully vested.
He's gonna pitch. He'll pitch through the pain. He'll get his service time. He'll do right by himself, and so will the Mets, too. This is how you avoid grievances, service time manipulation, and so on...
I'll also add one final addendum to this. Manaea's likely doing this against the advice of his agent. You all know him well. He's Scott Boras. Again, despite what everyone thinks: the agent works for the player.
I doubt the Mets are hiding results of imaging tests. I'd think those days are gone. If his ucl is bad, what's the gain for Mets to hide it?
How the Mets say they aren’t concerned is bullshit. Mendoza said he is still trying to find the right arm slot which to me reads as he’s trying to find a repeatable way to throw the ball where it doesn’t hurt and maybe then his velocity comes back? Manaea will be left behind before it’s announced he is heard for surgery and out for 3 months at least. He should have cleaned this up in the off season and I hope the Mets can recoup some of his contract because I can’t for the life of me believe they didn’t push for him to clean that elbow up. Robert played his first game. He’s a solid man. Fills out those under shirts like an Adonis. Prediction: if he plays 150 games. 30+HRs.