The players have changed , the coaches have changed. If I am changing the Manager, I certainly am not looking for the approval of an injured and underperforming shortstop. I'd be inclined to put Carlos Beltran in the hot seat, and see if his professionalism establishes new norms and standards.
It's miserable alright. But it strikes me as contradictory to say that they're pulse-less and then later on write that effort is not a problem. The saddest thing for me is that it seems that both Vientos and Baty are not who we hoped they were. They've both gotten a pretty good run and both have fallen on their face. Only bright spots are Benge, who is improving, and McLean, who is already an ace. I thought this was going to be Alvarez's year but doesn't look like. Stearns can't be sleeping well these days. He must feel embarrassed and should be. How can they not fire Mendoza at this point? You can't fire the players.
I knew the Mets wouldn’t score in the first game as McLean is now the new deGrom and it’s anathema for them to score runs for him. Q also was gonna want to show Stearns he still has something in the tank. Won that bet. Big Mac looked great early on but got himself into a bit of trouble earlier than usual but the rest of the team couldn’t muster anything against Q. Young. I have made a decision and it pains me to say this. I’m done with this team until it gets to .500. I’m not going to waste 3 hours of my time watching what they are providing. I have other things I can be doing which my wife can attest to. The sauna needs to be installed and will get done quicker now. I could’ve been working on that all day yesterday. The weekday night games can be filled with other activities. Things that I normally put aside to watch this team will now be put in its place. If they don’t care why should I? I lay this at Stearns’ feet. He gutted OUR team for what? This? I’m no longer buying what he sold me. Good job David you now hold the record for the earliest I don’t GAF. If he wants to bring up some kids now and inject some excitement into the team I’d be good with that as kids are fun to watch even if you lose. Adios, Mets.
Congratulations! You just did what every other whiny Mets fan has done for ages--point out the obvious problems without offering viable solutions. It's too easy to say this one sucks or that one should be traded, but outside of minor peripheral changes, what can be done? Who is available that would make them any better? At least you didn't feed into the mob mentality about getting rid of Alonso, Nimmo and McNeil.
I mentioned this a while back; how is it that a team can go into the season so completely unprepared to compete? I keep hearing Gary, Ron and Gelbs mention the adjustment to a new coaching staff and teaching philosophy. Isn't that what they're supposed to do during Spring Training? The Braves made wholesale changes to their coaching staff and they have the best record in baseball.
I think a change in leadership is needed as these players are a little too comfortable right now, playing under Mendoza. I'm tired of today's analytics driven process. There's no heart behind the numbers. I think a guy like Joe Maddon might be the right fit to turn this team around. He excels in working with younger players and getting more out of less. And he knows how to develop pitchers.
I was talking to another Mets fan friend and I mentioned Joe Maddon, if available and willing, to replace Mendoza. This team needs some old school baseball mentality. Obviously today's players wouldn't be able to handle Sparky Anderson, Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, types but Maddon is a fine balance.
Not at all. I'm just saying, if you're going to point out the problems, be ready to offer a viable solution. Otherwise, you're just another "whiny" Mets fan!
The myth of Joe Maddon is one of the grandest fairy tales. He's 72, the game has long passed him by. He is certainly not dealing with the 07-09 Rays or the 15-17 Cubs coming here.
With age comes wisdom, something today's analytics driven managers are severely lacking. Maddon is a "young" 72 and if you've seen him on MLB Network, you'd know the game definitely hasn't passed him by.
In baseball in 2026 you would be an imbecile to put Joe Maddon in a dugout, so sure, maybe Stearns would. But also Maddon's ego is as big as a planet, he is not going to take the job, he eventually butted heads with Epstein and Hoyer.
Maddon would be a stopgap solution, to help salvage this season. There likely won't be a season, next year and they'll be able to start fresh with a new manager and roster filled with players from the farm system in 2028.
Why in the world would Maddon want to leave the comfort of studio to be a stopgap solution. Without a season in 2027 that will include the minor leagues, so they won't be trying to field a team in 2028 with a trove of players who missed a year of development.
Well written, Michael Baron. There really are no answers. Only more questions. The two left handed starters at the beginning have done zip. I was holding out for at least one, but nah. It seems (I listen to the games on SiriusXM) like the hitters are in a bad place. To make them all be patient or all be aggressive or all be both (?!) is a difficult to near impossible task. If most of the roster is going to stay intact for at least May and June, most of them (Soto excl.) need to go back to basics, don't worry about the ANALytics, and have some f&*king fun! #LFGM!
The Rockies shouldn't have swept the Mets. The Rockies, however, are not just a "119 loss team." They have shown life. They have beaten the Dodgers. As the SNY booth noted, the team has shown some spirit. Also, notably, they picked up some hitters who have a better approach at the plate.
The Mets aren't totally dead. After Senga left, the relief shut down the Rockies. What did they have? Like a single hit? The pitching has been suspect (McLean going merely five isn't really enough, btw, but I understand he's a rookie; don't abuse the talent).
But they repeatedly pitched well enough to win. The hitting and too often fielding/baserunning (they let go of someone who did wonders) seem the biggest issue.
Finally, yes, changes seem necessary. I fail to see why we always need a "he doesn't deserve it" qualifier regarding firing Mendoza. If he can't motivate this team, what is the point? Isn't that part of a manager's job? If the team did well, I suppose he wouldn't be treated as a potted plant.
PS Yes, why in the heck should Cora, who can just rest with a big paycheck, want to come here? That's just amusing.
The Mets had $87.00 Million invested in 4 players in 2025 (Alonso, Marte, Nimmo, McNeil)
Here is how they reinvested it:
$115.75MM in 2026 - Bichette, Semien, Polanco, Robert Jr & $10.75 to eat part of Nimmo & McNeil)
They spent 33% more on 4 guys, 2 of whom they were opting to play out of position, 1 of which was coming off a serious injury, another who has played more than 138 games just twice at age 33.
Notably, none of these addressed the core problem for the Mets from July 29th forward, that being the number of starting pitchers who could get an out passed the 4th inning.
I agree I think it’s time to move on from Vientos and Baty. I believe Baty still has ano option so he can be sent down. It’s not just their fault obviously but some changes need to be made.
The players have changed , the coaches have changed. If I am changing the Manager, I certainly am not looking for the approval of an injured and underperforming shortstop. I'd be inclined to put Carlos Beltran in the hot seat, and see if his professionalism establishes new norms and standards.
It's miserable alright. But it strikes me as contradictory to say that they're pulse-less and then later on write that effort is not a problem. The saddest thing for me is that it seems that both Vientos and Baty are not who we hoped they were. They've both gotten a pretty good run and both have fallen on their face. Only bright spots are Benge, who is improving, and McLean, who is already an ace. I thought this was going to be Alvarez's year but doesn't look like. Stearns can't be sleeping well these days. He must feel embarrassed and should be. How can they not fire Mendoza at this point? You can't fire the players.
I knew the Mets wouldn’t score in the first game as McLean is now the new deGrom and it’s anathema for them to score runs for him. Q also was gonna want to show Stearns he still has something in the tank. Won that bet. Big Mac looked great early on but got himself into a bit of trouble earlier than usual but the rest of the team couldn’t muster anything against Q. Young. I have made a decision and it pains me to say this. I’m done with this team until it gets to .500. I’m not going to waste 3 hours of my time watching what they are providing. I have other things I can be doing which my wife can attest to. The sauna needs to be installed and will get done quicker now. I could’ve been working on that all day yesterday. The weekday night games can be filled with other activities. Things that I normally put aside to watch this team will now be put in its place. If they don’t care why should I? I lay this at Stearns’ feet. He gutted OUR team for what? This? I’m no longer buying what he sold me. Good job David you now hold the record for the earliest I don’t GAF. If he wants to bring up some kids now and inject some excitement into the team I’d be good with that as kids are fun to watch even if you lose. Adios, Mets.
To be fair, the Mets don't provide runs for any of the starters most of the time.
Congratulations! You just did what every other whiny Mets fan has done for ages--point out the obvious problems without offering viable solutions. It's too easy to say this one sucks or that one should be traded, but outside of minor peripheral changes, what can be done? Who is available that would make them any better? At least you didn't feed into the mob mentality about getting rid of Alonso, Nimmo and McNeil.
I mentioned this a while back; how is it that a team can go into the season so completely unprepared to compete? I keep hearing Gary, Ron and Gelbs mention the adjustment to a new coaching staff and teaching philosophy. Isn't that what they're supposed to do during Spring Training? The Braves made wholesale changes to their coaching staff and they have the best record in baseball.
I think a change in leadership is needed as these players are a little too comfortable right now, playing under Mendoza. I'm tired of today's analytics driven process. There's no heart behind the numbers. I think a guy like Joe Maddon might be the right fit to turn this team around. He excels in working with younger players and getting more out of less. And he knows how to develop pitchers.
I was talking to another Mets fan friend and I mentioned Joe Maddon, if available and willing, to replace Mendoza. This team needs some old school baseball mentality. Obviously today's players wouldn't be able to handle Sparky Anderson, Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, types but Maddon is a fine balance.
Mr. Kahan: are we to consider your complaints spot on but the complaints of others are "whiny"? Please!
Not at all. I'm just saying, if you're going to point out the problems, be ready to offer a viable solution. Otherwise, you're just another "whiny" Mets fan!
The myth of Joe Maddon is one of the grandest fairy tales. He's 72, the game has long passed him by. He is certainly not dealing with the 07-09 Rays or the 15-17 Cubs coming here.
With age comes wisdom, something today's analytics driven managers are severely lacking. Maddon is a "young" 72 and if you've seen him on MLB Network, you'd know the game definitely hasn't passed him by.
You are romanticizing a bygone era. He's never going to manage again.
Hmmm...wanna put them 72 year olds in the rocking chair? Maybe some belong there but others assuredly do not.
In baseball in 2026 you would be an imbecile to put Joe Maddon in a dugout, so sure, maybe Stearns would. But also Maddon's ego is as big as a planet, he is not going to take the job, he eventually butted heads with Epstein and Hoyer.
Maddon would be a stopgap solution, to help salvage this season. There likely won't be a season, next year and they'll be able to start fresh with a new manager and roster filled with players from the farm system in 2028.
Why in the world would Maddon want to leave the comfort of studio to be a stopgap solution. Without a season in 2027 that will include the minor leagues, so they won't be trying to field a team in 2028 with a trove of players who missed a year of development.
All of which may be quite true but has zero to do with my point.
Well written, Michael Baron. There really are no answers. Only more questions. The two left handed starters at the beginning have done zip. I was holding out for at least one, but nah. It seems (I listen to the games on SiriusXM) like the hitters are in a bad place. To make them all be patient or all be aggressive or all be both (?!) is a difficult to near impossible task. If most of the roster is going to stay intact for at least May and June, most of them (Soto excl.) need to go back to basics, don't worry about the ANALytics, and have some f&*king fun! #LFGM!
A few things.
The Rockies shouldn't have swept the Mets. The Rockies, however, are not just a "119 loss team." They have shown life. They have beaten the Dodgers. As the SNY booth noted, the team has shown some spirit. Also, notably, they picked up some hitters who have a better approach at the plate.
The Mets aren't totally dead. After Senga left, the relief shut down the Rockies. What did they have? Like a single hit? The pitching has been suspect (McLean going merely five isn't really enough, btw, but I understand he's a rookie; don't abuse the talent).
But they repeatedly pitched well enough to win. The hitting and too often fielding/baserunning (they let go of someone who did wonders) seem the biggest issue.
Finally, yes, changes seem necessary. I fail to see why we always need a "he doesn't deserve it" qualifier regarding firing Mendoza. If he can't motivate this team, what is the point? Isn't that part of a manager's job? If the team did well, I suppose he wouldn't be treated as a potted plant.
PS Yes, why in the heck should Cora, who can just rest with a big paycheck, want to come here? That's just amusing.
I watched the first game of the double header but passed on the 2nd. That was would've been an incredible amount of bad baseball to commit to.
I only see the Mendoza firing happening. Stearns at minimum makes it through the year.
I could only stomach watching about three innings of yesterday's doubleheader. They're unwatchable.
and Astros
So, they are going to do nothing (except maybe take Senga out of the rotation), right?
The Mets had $87.00 Million invested in 4 players in 2025 (Alonso, Marte, Nimmo, McNeil)
Here is how they reinvested it:
$115.75MM in 2026 - Bichette, Semien, Polanco, Robert Jr & $10.75 to eat part of Nimmo & McNeil)
They spent 33% more on 4 guys, 2 of whom they were opting to play out of position, 1 of which was coming off a serious injury, another who has played more than 138 games just twice at age 33.
Notably, none of these addressed the core problem for the Mets from July 29th forward, that being the number of starting pitchers who could get an out passed the 4th inning.
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At one point last year I guess..certainly in 2024 I thought Kodai was one of the best on the staff...
I agree I think it’s time to move on from Vientos and Baty. I believe Baty still has ano option so he can be sent down. It’s not just their fault obviously but some changes need to be made.