The youngsters have been shining bright and earning their place, but they're an unproven element for a playoff series. Also - the Mets won a series against the Padres this week
AND NOT THE NIMMO 3 RUN HOMER EXTENDING THE LEAD TO METS UP 5-1.....
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>After the Padres briefly tied the game 1-1, Juan Soto untied it in the bottom of the third with an RBI groundout to give the team a 2-1 lead, a lead the Mets would not relinquish and send them on their way to a critical series win over the Padres.
I think the Mets are kinda stuck regarding the answer to who is going to be in the rotation should they make the playoffs. You gotta ride the hot hand regardless of age or experience. The outcome will be what it may because they put themselves in this spot. Stearns went on the cheap with the rotation going into the season and we don’t have a single arm that he signed or went into the season with they can trust. This is the situation they are in. If the kids carry them all the better but it also gives them experience going forward and that will be invaluable for next year on. Should they get in again next year we won’t be asking this question. Stearns better of learned from this. YOU NEED A STUD EVERY FIFTH DAY!MaClean or Tong or Sproat or Scott may wind up being that guy but it would be nice to have a Skuball or Cease or Crochett or Cole on this rotation.
Lack of plan was referring to the constant shuffling of relievers. Burn a guy 3 innings, lose him for 15 days by sending him to the minors, bring up an inferior choice (or he would have been here in the first place.) How many guys were brought up for 1 - 3 days, pitched once and were sent down. For what purpose? WIth 8 guys in the bullpen, you should be able to manage a staff without this nonsense. Part of the issue with Stanek, in my opinion, is he has not pitched enough, which is why his stuff is not sharp, because they use him at most two/three times a week. I was not even getting into Montas over Serverino, who was given a take-it-or-leave it offer at the same price. Is anyone going to even think that Montas was going to give the Mets as much as Severino did last year/projected to this year?
Assuming we make the postseason, Manaea is going to be the key to the rotation. He must be the Game One starter and he must give us a quality start each time out.
Whether he's capable of that at the moment is an open question. He says his elbow hasn't bothered him in a couple months, which surprised me. I thought that was the root of his problems. In any event, if he's healthy, he must show out.
After that, it's a guessing game. It's great to contemplate a rerun of 2015, but at the same time, Syndegaard had 24 starts that year as a 22-year-old fifth starter, which is twice as many as McLean, Sproat and Tong have — combined.
It's asking a lot of guys with so little experience to come up big in the playoffs.
But, it may be possible to get the most out of what we have by piggybacking some more. It's an intriguing possibility. A rookie starter might feel a lot less pressure if they know a veteran starter is waiting in the wings. (Nolan is the exception. He's ray-go.)
So with Suera we will be at 47 (Jesse Orosco) for number of pitchers used. This should be a focus, because while it is great we have a depth of expendable arms and a willingness to use them for an outing or two and send them on the way if they either eat up too many innings or whatever, it also shows a lack of a plan. We are now heading into the final two weeks of the season with 3 rookie starters, David Peterson struggling after carrying staff for half the year, and tag/team in Senga and Walker, 3 guys we just called up, two we dont trust (stanek/Helsley) and three guys we do (Rogers, Raley, Diaz). And I dont trust Diaz in a tight spot due to his inability to control the running game. And he is not the Diaz of 22 when he just ate people up. And we still might get more BP guys up between now and the end.
If we can't trust Diaz in a tight spot, we should just give up. Sure, he's not as good as he once was, but still an elite reliever. Disagree about "lack of a plan". Nobody could have predicted Senga's collapse, Manea's poor performance, and Peterson's turning into a pumpkin. I'm happy to have Stearns as the GM. Trade deadline acquisitions haven't turned out as hoped, it's true, and signing Montas for 34M wasn't smart but I'd cut him some slack.
Unless my calculation is off the magic number to clinch is 8. Keep winning 2 games of each remaining series. Chances of catching the Padres are remote, so just keep it rolling. I agree, to make any noise in the post season it will rest on the 3 young pitchers
LINDA LINDA LINDA
HOW THE FREAKING HECK
WAS A SOTO GROUNDOUT DRIVING IN 1 RUN...
THE PLAY OF THE GAME....CRAZY
AND NOT THE NIMMO 3 RUN HOMER EXTENDING THE LEAD TO METS UP 5-1.....
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>After the Padres briefly tied the game 1-1, Juan Soto untied it in the bottom of the third with an RBI groundout to give the team a 2-1 lead, a lead the Mets would not relinquish and send them on their way to a critical series win over the Padres.
AND LINDA LINDA LINDA
AGAIN WHAT THE FREAKING HECK
AFTER TALKING ABOUT ALONSO SOLO HOMER, BLAH BLAH BLAH
AND LINDOR, BLAH BLAH BLAH
AND SOTO GROUNDOUT RBI, BLAH BLAH BLAH
YOU SAY THIS ABOUT NIMMO, NOT EVEN MENTIONING THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, NIMMO'S 3 RUN HOMER, ON THE THIRD INNING
POOR NIMMO NEVER GETS RESPECT FROM JUST METS STAFF WRITERS
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> Brandon Nimmo blasted his 24th home run of the season to match his career high which he set in 2023
Nimmo also has almost 90 RBIs, which is 3rd Best on the Mets after Alonso and Soto
I think the Mets are kinda stuck regarding the answer to who is going to be in the rotation should they make the playoffs. You gotta ride the hot hand regardless of age or experience. The outcome will be what it may because they put themselves in this spot. Stearns went on the cheap with the rotation going into the season and we don’t have a single arm that he signed or went into the season with they can trust. This is the situation they are in. If the kids carry them all the better but it also gives them experience going forward and that will be invaluable for next year on. Should they get in again next year we won’t be asking this question. Stearns better of learned from this. YOU NEED A STUD EVERY FIFTH DAY!MaClean or Tong or Sproat or Scott may wind up being that guy but it would be nice to have a Skuball or Cease or Crochett or Cole on this rotation.
No matter who starts, they won’t win anything if every single arm out of the bullpen continue to struggle mightily.
Shame.
Lack of plan was referring to the constant shuffling of relievers. Burn a guy 3 innings, lose him for 15 days by sending him to the minors, bring up an inferior choice (or he would have been here in the first place.) How many guys were brought up for 1 - 3 days, pitched once and were sent down. For what purpose? WIth 8 guys in the bullpen, you should be able to manage a staff without this nonsense. Part of the issue with Stanek, in my opinion, is he has not pitched enough, which is why his stuff is not sharp, because they use him at most two/three times a week. I was not even getting into Montas over Serverino, who was given a take-it-or-leave it offer at the same price. Is anyone going to even think that Montas was going to give the Mets as much as Severino did last year/projected to this year?
You should have a guy on your staff who can pitch three innings and not be down for a week. Wasnt that Butto's job to be the long man?
Assuming we make the postseason, Manaea is going to be the key to the rotation. He must be the Game One starter and he must give us a quality start each time out.
Whether he's capable of that at the moment is an open question. He says his elbow hasn't bothered him in a couple months, which surprised me. I thought that was the root of his problems. In any event, if he's healthy, he must show out.
After that, it's a guessing game. It's great to contemplate a rerun of 2015, but at the same time, Syndegaard had 24 starts that year as a 22-year-old fifth starter, which is twice as many as McLean, Sproat and Tong have — combined.
It's asking a lot of guys with so little experience to come up big in the playoffs.
But, it may be possible to get the most out of what we have by piggybacking some more. It's an intriguing possibility. A rookie starter might feel a lot less pressure if they know a veteran starter is waiting in the wings. (Nolan is the exception. He's ray-go.)
Manaea is the Key. I agree as he has such awesome ball movement
So with Suera we will be at 47 (Jesse Orosco) for number of pitchers used. This should be a focus, because while it is great we have a depth of expendable arms and a willingness to use them for an outing or two and send them on the way if they either eat up too many innings or whatever, it also shows a lack of a plan. We are now heading into the final two weeks of the season with 3 rookie starters, David Peterson struggling after carrying staff for half the year, and tag/team in Senga and Walker, 3 guys we just called up, two we dont trust (stanek/Helsley) and three guys we do (Rogers, Raley, Diaz). And I dont trust Diaz in a tight spot due to his inability to control the running game. And he is not the Diaz of 22 when he just ate people up. And we still might get more BP guys up between now and the end.
If we can't trust Diaz in a tight spot, we should just give up. Sure, he's not as good as he once was, but still an elite reliever. Disagree about "lack of a plan". Nobody could have predicted Senga's collapse, Manea's poor performance, and Peterson's turning into a pumpkin. I'm happy to have Stearns as the GM. Trade deadline acquisitions haven't turned out as hoped, it's true, and signing Montas for 34M wasn't smart but I'd cut him some slack.
Unless my calculation is off the magic number to clinch is 8. Keep winning 2 games of each remaining series. Chances of catching the Padres are remote, so just keep it rolling. I agree, to make any noise in the post season it will rest on the 3 young pitchers
As of now I’m going with McLean, Manaea/Holmes, Peterson/Sproat piggyback. I’d still put Tong in the BP I think. Helsley can’t be on a playoff roster.