Who cares if someone has a bigger name ..Its who's doing the job and right now Andy is doing the job. I mean Soto isnt even in the lineup and they look like a much better team than 2 months ago. Replace Polanco with Soto and you've got a team.The difference in the ball club right noew is night and day. Benge is the new star..A met for life (hopefully) Lindor finally is healthy and he shows it everyday now . I say get a serious front line strter like Tarik Skubal and now we're talking..It also looks like we found a first baseman by accident in Young..I say keep him there.
For a period of time this season the Mets to me were unwatchable. The next stretch of games they play teams in the hunt, and time will tell if they stay competitive. Andy's honesty is refreshing win or lose, as he seems to not care about winning popularity contrests with the media or players. Finish the season strong, and give the man a chance to decide if he wants to be in the dugout, and if not include him in picking the next guy. He is a valuable man in the organization in either capacity.
He's not gonna burn his young starters, especially Scott. Sorry, that is just not how organizations think. They are here not necessarily because they are ready but as a residue of others failures. Not fair to pin that on them, in their development.
For better or worse, it is a different game where pitching is concerned. Seaver and his contemporaries threw in the mid-90's and threw harder only at select moments in the game, when they really needed an out. These kids are throwing harder virtually every pitch, so they cannot throw that kind of game exceeding 80-100 pitches, even once they establish greater length into games. All the injuries that pitchers now deal with are likely the result of that strategy.
Correct. They're taught velocity and spin over pitch ability. I also trace a lot of this to youth baseball, too. They are playing games (with "stakes"); not refining their skills, over practice. Certainly not doing any throwing program to condition their arms for endurance, first. In warmer weather climates, they are playing 9 months a year, if you add travel ball, tournaments, etc. By the time they get into their 20s, they've probably all suffered damage to an underdeveloped arm and body, which leads to the fecundity of injuries and surgeries you see in today's pro game.
You write of a newfound "sense of direction" since Green got the job. Is it the sense of direction that leads to the wins or is it winning that results in the sensation of a change of direction? Turning the page, I'll return to my Michael Carrick analogy. If they are transformed into a winning team when a new guy takes over, stick with him, rather than insist on a big name. Finally, if sports pundits banging the drum influences management, I wish you all would start urging Stearns to sign Benge to a long term contract as numerous other teams have done with young stars under control.
No disagreement Green has performed capably in the caretaker function that is his assignment for the 2026 Season. He knows the organization, knows the data, speaks easily to the media, has a flair for rapidly quoting referential analytic interpretation that is all the vogue. He is well positioned to leverage his role as "interim" to to get through the back half in a pressure free environment for himself ant the organization. Suspect most will agree that was and remains necessary, and the results since his elevation evidence that.
Perfect execution for the job at hand.
Respectfully, I think it is not a measure for the job ahead. It COULD BE, but its a different ask and a different skill set. Absolutely not reason to exclude him from consideration, but also not an abdication of duty to examine the market to understand what is available, I've seen this before and suggest the Mets not reflexively execute a grasp of the obvious, and instead do the deep work to a understand what is needed to perform at a level that will be competitive in the next phase (Post CBA) of MLB leadership.
I think Cohen is smarter now than he was when he bought the Club. I also think he is very busy with other things. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Maybe it is that euphoric feeling you have when you had a 48-hour flu (the first part of the season) and now you start feeling better (winning crisp baseball). Maybe. Or maybe this team is finally showing what we expected it to be. And we are missing Soto through it all. Imagine the potency of the lineup when Juan Soto replaces Robert Jr. or Polanco in the lineup. I actually look forward to watching the games again.
I think if we could have some continuity at manager that’s a good thing. 1 less thing we have to worry anb in the offseason. Especially if the younger guys (upcoming core) like and respect him.
Slightly off topic: Was I hallucinating or did Jared Young actually bunt for a base hit yesterday? When was the last time that *any* Met did that?
Who cares if someone has a bigger name ..Its who's doing the job and right now Andy is doing the job. I mean Soto isnt even in the lineup and they look like a much better team than 2 months ago. Replace Polanco with Soto and you've got a team.The difference in the ball club right noew is night and day. Benge is the new star..A met for life (hopefully) Lindor finally is healthy and he shows it everyday now . I say get a serious front line strter like Tarik Skubal and now we're talking..It also looks like we found a first baseman by accident in Young..I say keep him there.
For a period of time this season the Mets to me were unwatchable. The next stretch of games they play teams in the hunt, and time will tell if they stay competitive. Andy's honesty is refreshing win or lose, as he seems to not care about winning popularity contrests with the media or players. Finish the season strong, and give the man a chance to decide if he wants to be in the dugout, and if not include him in picking the next guy. He is a valuable man in the organization in either capacity.
Andy Green is a straight talker, which is good to see
Two things I don't like about his managing:
1. He takes his starters out way too early;
this idea that less innings leads to less injuries is hogwash and has been disproven
Let the kids pitch
2. He does not run enough. Ewing and Benge and Robert Jr and Lindor all have speed;
he seems to be "saving" them by not running. The Mets are not a big power team;
they need to run more to generate offense
He's not gonna burn his young starters, especially Scott. Sorry, that is just not how organizations think. They are here not necessarily because they are ready but as a residue of others failures. Not fair to pin that on them, in their development.
I agree with your point
Just wish it were different
Seaver through 251 innings as a rookie
yes, in 1967
For better or worse, it is a different game where pitching is concerned. Seaver and his contemporaries threw in the mid-90's and threw harder only at select moments in the game, when they really needed an out. These kids are throwing harder virtually every pitch, so they cannot throw that kind of game exceeding 80-100 pitches, even once they establish greater length into games. All the injuries that pitchers now deal with are likely the result of that strategy.
i am not sure they did not throw as hard - there was no public pitch speed in MLB stadiums until 2008, though teams had radar guns in the 1970's.
when watching Christian Scott yesterday, he threw plenty of cutters and off-speed stuff, at least 1/2 the time were non-fastballs
the issue to me is command; the pitchers today throw way too many uncompetitive pitches, and miss spots by large amounts.
Correct. They're taught velocity and spin over pitch ability. I also trace a lot of this to youth baseball, too. They are playing games (with "stakes"); not refining their skills, over practice. Certainly not doing any throwing program to condition their arms for endurance, first. In warmer weather climates, they are playing 9 months a year, if you add travel ball, tournaments, etc. By the time they get into their 20s, they've probably all suffered damage to an underdeveloped arm and body, which leads to the fecundity of injuries and surgeries you see in today's pro game.
You write of a newfound "sense of direction" since Green got the job. Is it the sense of direction that leads to the wins or is it winning that results in the sensation of a change of direction? Turning the page, I'll return to my Michael Carrick analogy. If they are transformed into a winning team when a new guy takes over, stick with him, rather than insist on a big name. Finally, if sports pundits banging the drum influences management, I wish you all would start urging Stearns to sign Benge to a long term contract as numerous other teams have done with young stars under control.
Mr. Buskirk:
No disagreement Green has performed capably in the caretaker function that is his assignment for the 2026 Season. He knows the organization, knows the data, speaks easily to the media, has a flair for rapidly quoting referential analytic interpretation that is all the vogue. He is well positioned to leverage his role as "interim" to to get through the back half in a pressure free environment for himself ant the organization. Suspect most will agree that was and remains necessary, and the results since his elevation evidence that.
Perfect execution for the job at hand.
Respectfully, I think it is not a measure for the job ahead. It COULD BE, but its a different ask and a different skill set. Absolutely not reason to exclude him from consideration, but also not an abdication of duty to examine the market to understand what is available, I've seen this before and suggest the Mets not reflexively execute a grasp of the obvious, and instead do the deep work to a understand what is needed to perform at a level that will be competitive in the next phase (Post CBA) of MLB leadership.
I think Cohen is smarter now than he was when he bought the Club. I also think he is very busy with other things. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Steve
Maybe it is that euphoric feeling you have when you had a 48-hour flu (the first part of the season) and now you start feeling better (winning crisp baseball). Maybe. Or maybe this team is finally showing what we expected it to be. And we are missing Soto through it all. Imagine the potency of the lineup when Juan Soto replaces Robert Jr. or Polanco in the lineup. I actually look forward to watching the games again.
I think if we could have some continuity at manager that’s a good thing. 1 less thing we have to worry anb in the offseason. Especially if the younger guys (upcoming core) like and respect him.